Alt.Sex: Bondage
Contents:
Changes (Since 1996): MAJOR rewrite. I unstilted the prose somewhat to
make it more friendly and accessible, and I changed the rules around to
reflect the new dynamics around here. Version 5.0
These are all tips. No one is bending your arm behind your back and forcing
you to do these (well, maybe someone is, but that's none of my doing).
On the other hand, a lot of work went into the Welcome, and (I think) it
serves its purpose remarkably well.
- Watch for a while. Read all of this and the FAQ.
- Try to be understanding and accepting. The world is bigger than
you thought it was, almost certainly.
- Remember the net.warriors serenity prayer: "Lord, let me have the
conviction to stick to my position when I'm right, the grace to give
in when I'm wrong, and the smarts to figure out which is what."
- Craft your posts. Bear in mind what you say, who you say it to, and
how you say it.
- Usenet is not the end all and be all of the universe. Relax.
- This document is not strictly speaking accurate in all respects.
It's just a guide to get you started.
- Avoid ads like the plague.
- Preface your subject lines with "ASB" so we can figure out you're not
a spammer. [Editor's note: this doesn't apply to SSB]
- If it's copywrit, (read:written by someone else) and you don't have
permission, DON'T POST IT. (Well, you can quote and cite, if you don't
send too much)
- People here seem really familiar with each other. Relax, joining the
clique is not a difficult thing.
Hi there! Welcome to alt.sex.bondage. I'm Big Al, and I'll be guiding
you through this brief tour of asb. This is one of our FAQ (Frequently
Asked Questions. You'll find net.people have this tendency to use
acronyms as often as they can) posts, but not THE FAQ nor could I
conceivably replace the FAQ. I highly recommend you get a hold of
and read the FAQ, as it explains what bondage & c. is all about and covers
some very important safety information. All this post is is a guide to
etiquette. It should be posted on the first and fifteenth of the month,
or you can do ftp rtfm.mit.edu and look in /pub/usenet-by-group/alt.sex.
bondage. Also, news.answers and news.announce.newusers are newsgroups
that have a great deal of good information about how to post, how to read,
and the conventions that are common throughout most of Usenet.
I'm going to be spending most of my time discussing what to do when you
post. Most of the people who read asb, though, never write a single word.
It IS okay to sit back and just read, and there are parts of this document
(the appendixes) that can still be helpful to you. If you do decide to
post, I really recommend you read ALL of the Welcome, read the FAQ, and
read the newsgroup for a while to get the feel of the place. You can just
jump in with both feet and hope you don't piss anyone off (I did) but
generally it's better to look before you leap.
Alt.sex.bondage started, near as I can figure out, sometime between
1985 and 1988. Legend has it that originally it was a joke newsgroup,
sort of like alt.sex.bestiality.hamster.duct-tape, but a group of
real B&D enthusiasts took over and the rest is, well, history. Asb as
it now stands is a catchall newsgroup, for all kinds of deviant sexuality:
fetishism, sadomasochism, "love" bondage, etc. Gay/bi/lesbian and
bestiality tend not to be discussed here, but it does happen from time to
time. In asb you are likely to find technical questions and advice,
jokes, relationship discussions, morality arguments, friendly yakking, not
so friendly fighting, and just about anything else you're looking for, all
in a BDSM positive atmosphere. You will also, unfortunately, find a lot
of spam: personal ads, people with binaries or binary carrying websites,
and occasionally consumer ads. Please try not to post any yourself. You
can generally find non-spam articles that have "ASB" in the subject line.
There is one thing that is not tolerated in asb: nonconsensuality.
This newsgroup worships at the altar of consent, and if you don't...keep
an eye peeled for police officers. The exception to this rule is that if
you're nonconsensual in fantasy and keep it that way, it's okay.
You may, of course, not find what you're looking for. If that happens,
there's several things you can do: You can bitch about it and leave, you
can post saying "why don't we have more of thisandsuch?", or (and this
is your best choice), you can actually write some of the thisandsuch.
What generally happens then is that other people who were looking for
thisandsuch will go "Nice, there's someone with My kink. I think I'll
reply to that post." and pretty soon you have a full blown discussion on
your favorite topic going. I, personally, have actually done this to
the point where it changed the whole nature of the newsgroup, but it took
me about a year or two to do that. Finally, you can look elsewhere for
what you want. I've included an appendix:
Where Else To Look (appendix B) that should get you started.
I, personally, like to "craft" my posts. It's like making a sculpture:
if you just bang something out you're going to be forgotten real fast, but
if you take care and make a really good quality post, you soar in other
people's esteem, your name goes down in the annals of asb Legend, and
you get your point across a lot better, which is why you bothered to post,
right? Here's some tips:
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A one-time asb regular wrote down the four goals for an excellent post:
"Make me laugh, make me cry, make me think, make me cum." Try to do
at least one with most things you write, if you can do all four
consistently you're really onto something.
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Always think about who is reading this. Posts are not read by just the
person you're replying to, over 200,000 people are reading this newsgroup.
Try to include all of them. There's a convention: ObBondage, just for
that. If you only wish to speak to the person you're replying to, send
them email.
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Take the time and do it right. For starters, the worst flamewars start
because someone was imprecise about what they said. Secondly, the better
you do, the bigger your audience gets.
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Avoid putting people down for their kinks like the plague. Okay, this
needs some qualification: if putting them down IS part of their kink,
go for it, but only AFTER you've gotten their permission and for cryin'
out loud Please tell the rest of us that's what you're doing. Otherwise,
try to be open-minded, or at least tolerant. Bear in mind that no matter
what you do, there are people who think it's a sick perversion, and for
all any of us knows, they're right.
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Be wary of how much material you quote. A million lines of somebody else's
stuff and one line of yours is something of a waste of time for your readers.
Try to delete the unimportant bits and summarize where you have to.
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Try to avoid either posting or replying to "flame bait", posts written
for the sole purpose of drawing in hostility from other people. This just
makes you look like a fool, too.
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After you post, you're going to get several varieties of reaction:
nothing at all, some neutral response, flamage, or hailed hugged and
heralded. I've yet to find a reliable way to figure out which is gonna
happen. If you get the three H's, congratulations, that's better than
anything I ever did. If you get flamed, it's important that you relax.
People get hurt in flamewars by taking things too much to heart. Bear in
mind that the person flaming you is human, and may have their head
inserted in their rectum. If it's me flaming you, that's probably the
case. If you get nothing, don't worry about it and try again. Most of
the posts here never get any kind of reply, and I'd say about 2/3 of
all posts I wrote to asb weren't replied to.
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Something that happens sometimes is 'Usenet Nod Syndrome' where you
write something really good, everyone reads it, goes "by gum, you're
right!", and then can't find anything to reply to. If this happens a lot,
try to leave a little 'hook' in your posts so people have something to
say.
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Sometimes you'll get two copies of the same reply: one on the newsgroup,
and one in email. This is because your correspondent took a step to
combat unreliable newsreaders and vicious killing of posts and sent you
a courtesy or carbon copy. If you set up an email correspondence because
of that, bear in mind that it should stay in email until you get
permission from the other to post some or all of it.
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There's one last thing I want to touch on before I let you go:
anonymous remailers. Needless to say, admitting you enjoy (say) flogging
someone with a bullwhip in a sexual kinda way could get you kicked out
of your job. Or lose your kids. Or get thrown in jail. It is, however
possible to avoid this and still post by using an anonymous remailer,
which hides your identity from everyone who reads the post. Anonymous
remailers (good ones) allow you to reply via email, though, so you are
still held accountable to the newsgroup.
Well, that's everything I can think of to say just now. Good luck!
Big Al. Well, "The Greeting" was taken...
Copyright Notification: This document is copyrighted to yours truly.
You have my persmission to distribute it or archive it, publicly or
privately, provided you don't charge anyone for it, let people know that
it was I who wrote it (Include my email address) and don't misquote just
to prove how messed up all those kinky people are. Otherwise, ask
first.
Changes (Since 2/20/96): The Valentines Day Rewrite. Not much changed
in this part, though.
I'm going to erase all the information I DON'T have in here about the
other FAQ's and issue a general call: you got one I should list?
I'm looking for anon remailers that people are willing to make part of
this newsgroup's Welcome FAQ. If you don't run the thing, send me the
address of whoever does so I can ask them for permission.
At some time in the past (nobody's sure when) Harry Ugol made an
off-the-cuff remark (nobody's sure what) that has since become one of the
cornerstones of asb thought. Two of the most common formulations of
Ugol's Law, as it came to be known, are "For any given kink, either
nobody does it or more than one person does it", and "If you ever ask
'am I the only one who <insert kink>?' the answer is invariably 'no'."
However, the best way I ever saw of putting it was written by
-^-^Spectrum^-^-, who wrote it "You are not the only one."
Ugol's law serves a very important purpose in asb, where people often
come in from the cold wondering if they are some kind of sick twisted
pervert in the bad sense of the word, alone in some unnatural practice
they can't escape from. Ugol's law serves to remind people that there
are others out there who are like them, and that serves as a source of
comfort.
Some time later The_Horseman wrote Horseman's Corollary, specifically:
"Any given kink squicks somebody." So remember that while you aren't
universally rejected, there's somebody who won't do what you do. I
suggest you not try to force them to. You're not their mother.
No way this is a complete list. A more complete list, the Guide to
Sex Resource Information on the Internet, is (supposedly) published
monthly here. Mail
phillp@iglou.com for info/copy requests.
I am ALWAYS taking submissions for things you feel should be in here.
I'll specifically ask for things up above, but I'll accept recommendations
for any category.
Incidentally, a word about personals: It is generally a good idea (unless
it is obvious that the place is for personals, like alt.personals.ads) to
ask first before posting personals. Lots of places do not like personals
at all. Come to think of it, the same is true for just about all the points
of Nettiquette covered in this document. Read the documentation.
[Editor's note: the SSB charter specifically prohibits personals]
Newsgroups:
alt.sex, alt.sex.bestiality, soc.motss, alt.sex.motss, soc.men,
soc.women, soc.bi, the alt.sex.fetish.* groups (amputee, fat, fashion,
feet, hair, orientals, startrek and size), alt.personals, alt.personals.ads,
alt.personals.bondage, alt.sex.wizards (about questions for advanced
sex, not sex with magii, although I suppose you could discuss that too),
alt.sex.majick (for sex with magii) alt.sex.wanted, alt.polyamory,
alt.personals.poly, rec.arts.bodyart (chiefly piercing and tatoos),
alt.sex.spanking, alt.sex.femdom. All these groups have their own FAQs
and traditions, and what is written here may not apply to them.
Mail lists:
[I would appreciate it if those who wished their email list noted here
would contact me with the name, purpose, and a subscribe address. I would
also appreciate it if those who are on the lists noted here would tell me
how one gets on them and/or what they're about.]
clyster-l, Anal play oriented. Address unkown.
gl-asb, majordomo@queernet.org. For homosexual BDSM.
headspce@law.emory.edu : This, apparently, is going to concentrate
on BDSM doings in the south (especially around Atlanta.) Send mail there
or an170100@anon.penet.fi containing only SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the
message body to subscribe or unsubscribe.
femdom-l: if you don't get alt.sex.femdom reliably or at all, this list will
send the asf posts to you in the mail. To subscribe, send mail to listerv@
netcom.com with "subscribe femdom-l" in the message body. Contact juu@netcom.
com if you have problems, questions, etc. This is not a discussion list.
IRC channels:
#bondage (invite-only), #bdsm, #gaysm, and #Femdom (not always extant,
do /who #femdom to check).
#bdsm exists on both undernet and EFnet,
#gaysm very occasionally exists on undernet and often exists on EFnet,
#femdom I have seen on both nets, and #bondage only exists on EFnet, near
as I can tell.
#B&Dlounge and #BDSMlounge I've only seen on the EFnet, but I haven't been
looking elsewhere.
[Same here. Anybody who wants an IRC channel listed, would you please
tell me?]
WWW sites:
[Okay, I'm taking submissions (Not THAT kind, quit lickin'
my shoes) for this part, BUT I'm trying to avoid having to list everybody
and their kid brother's personal home page. So, Neat, Wonderful, and
Generally God-Like as you might be, please don't send me yours.]
Rob Jellinghaus robj@unreal.com:
http://www.unreal.com/adult/asb/faq.htm
[Editor's note: the URL has moved to
http://www.unrealities.com/adult/ssbb/faq.htm]
Okay, I know I said I didn't want to put peoples personal home pages in
here, but this isn't just any person, it's Rob Jellinghaus. (Betcha that
makes him feel better) He's the maintainer of the asb FAQ and you really
should read that.
eff.org:
http://www.eff.org
Electronic Frontier Foundation, for information
on political stuff like freedom of speech on the internet.
SM-COP Online Resource Directory:
http://www.tpe.com
Think of it as your kinky online card catalog/encyclopedia.
Society for Human Sexuality
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~sfpse
[Editor's note: the URL has moved to
http://www.sexuality.org/]
Much the same as above, though you might have a hard time if you're a chipmunk.
Includes the Guide to Safer Sex.
mageneta.com:
http://magenta.com/lmnop/intro.html
Magenta is a site
administered by our own Wombat that has both BDSM (look for "lmnop") and
non-bdsm users.
The Eulenspiegal Society:
http://www.mcsp.com/tes/toc.html
[Editor's note: the URL has moved to
http://www.tes.org/]
An NYC bondage and alternate sexuality group, meets Wednesdays.
The Group With No Name:
http://www.io.com/~crackers/GWNN.html
[Editor's note: the URL has moved to
http://www.gwnn.org/]
An Austin (I think) based BDSM organization.
FAQs
- **THE** Faq: Everything you wanted to know about BDSM but were afraid to ask.
Posted monthly, by Rob Jellinghaus (robj@unreal com). Available by web
surfing at http://www.unreal.com/adult/asb/faq.htm
[Editor's note: the URL has changed as described above under WWW Sites.
The FAQ is still by Rob Jellinghaus, but (as of 1999) it's posted to SSB on the first and
fifteenth of each month by Spectrum.]
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The Acronyms Post: A much better version of the glossary, posted on the
10th, 20th, and 30th (if it exists) by Frites (Email via mindspring.com)
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The Welcome: A guide to ettiquette on alt.sex.bondage. Posted once in a
blue moon by yours truly (arsmith@cris.com) You're reading it.
Remailers, anon and non-anon.
(Say that five times fast)
Penet.fi is dead. I think. Any others?
Copyright Notification: I wrote it, it's my copyright. Out of the kindness
of my heart, I'm willing to allow you to copy, distribute, archive, etc.
to your hearts content, privately or publicly, in whatever format you
feel like (If it's anything besides a file or a computer printout, I'd
be interested in knowing what it is, though) provided:
- My name and email address come attached.
- No money changes hands.
- It is not raped and bastardized to prove how strange persons of kink are.
For starters, the only person it would prove was strange was me, and I already
knew that.
Otherwise, ask permission. Say please.
Changes (Since 1996): The Valentines Day Rewrite. I changed Appendix C
completely, and added "spam" and a new definition for "ASB" to the
glossary.
Anybody know where I can find the Killfiles Faq? I'm looking for all
kinds of killfiles advice.
There was a time, once, when people did not post ads saying "come visit
my pornograpy website" all over alt.sex.bondage. But then, Cantor and
Siegel came in and...well, nothing's been the same since. There is,
however, a defense, of sorts: the Killfile.
What a killfile does is to automatically mark read posts that meet certain
criteria you set beforehand. On unix systems, this file will be <your
home directory>/News/alt/sex/bondage/KILL (or <your home dir>/News/KILL
may work) Entries, for rn and trn, come in the following format:
/<pattern>/H<headerline>:j the <> and the stuff in between are
variables. For example:
/.*,.*,.*,.*,/HNewsgroups:j Will kill all posts that hit five or
more newsgroups. Two other good lines to have are:
/alt.binaries/HNewsgroups:j and
/multipart/HContent-Type:j
I totally stole these and tested them on trn. Worked fine. Thank you,
spectrum and if you want me to get rid of it just let me know.
[As Always, feel free to add, subtract, whatever]
Disclaimer: This is even less complete than the Where Else To Look
appendix, and was just intended to give you a basic idea of what everyone
is talking about. Oftentimes people will use these words in ways that have
nothing to do with what I wrote down, and the vast majority of BDSM people
don't know anything about some of these terms at all. (Ironically, "BDSM"
is one of those words.) Consult your local scene for how people speak.
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Androphile: One who loves men. Note that this says nothing about the sex
or orientation of the one doing the loving.
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ASB: 1) Shorthand for alt.sex.bondage. 2) a keyphrase that indicates
you're writing an actual bondage article, instead of just some spam.
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Bisexual: One who orients towards males and females.
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BDSM: A catchall phrase made up of B&D (Bondage and Discipline) D&S
(Dominance and Submission) and S&M (Sadism and Masochism). It describes
alternate sexuality in general, except bestiality and orientation variations.
Oftentimes there is some blurring of the lines among the three types,
fetish play, etc., so BDSM makes a useful term.
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Bondage: The act of restraining someone's movements, usually in a sexual
context.
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Bottom: The person who, in B&D or S&M play, is restrained, recieving the
beatings, cuttings, etc.
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Cane: A long, thin (usually flexible) rod used to strike a bottom.
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Catcher: Synonymous (well, not exactly, but close enough) to bottom, or sub.
The doee rather than the doer. Introduced by Charles Haynes. Apparently
this term had some popularity in the gay community before it ever came here.
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CIS: "Complete Irrevocable Submission." Rather self-explanatory.
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Chudwah: (From CHDW) a Clueless Het-Dom Wannabe. Chudwahs don't get a
whole lot of respect. They often send wannafucks. (As I recall, The
Horseman also came up with this term.)
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Dominance and Submission: The act of exchanging control of one of the
participants. Some feel this is accomplished only if the submissive has
exchanged all power, and has no way of deciding their fate.
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Dominant: In D&S play, the one who controls.
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Femdom: 1) A dominant woman. 2) The systems of D&S where a woman is dominant.
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Fetish: A sexual attraction to an object, body part, etc. not usually
associated with sex. Common examples are latex and feet.
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Flogger: A whip of more than one tail.
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Fnord: A small blue plush creature whom you are enamored of. (The exact
reasoning behind "whom you are enamored of" is slightly long and convoluted,
and doesn't make a whole lot of difference anyway unless you're talking to
him. This is one of those terms that didn't seem to make it outside
the computer-based groups.) I'm led to understand it has some application
to discordianism, but nobody would tell me what it was.
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Gynophile: One who loves women. Note that this says nothing about the sex
or orientation of the one doing the loving.
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Heterosexual: One who orients towards members of the opposite sex.
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HNG: Horny Net Geek. Often sends wannafucks.
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Homosexual: One who orients towards members of the same sex.
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IMO: In My Opinion. There are a LOT of variants on this.
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Kink: One's sexual or semisexual leanings, enjoyments, etc.
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Masochist: One who enjoys experiencing pain.
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Master: Synonym for Dominant. Not used by everyone into D&S.
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Ob(BDSM, DS, etc.): It once was traditional throughout most of usenet
that when you posted something off topic to a certain group you added
an Ob(whatever the topic is) to the end of the post so your readers didn't
think it was a complete waste of time. This isn't absolutely Obligatory
anymore (incidentally, that's where the term comes from), but you still
see it, and are encouraged to use it should you choose.
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Pistachio: An ice cream flavor. Symbolic for BDSM. See Vanilla.
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Pitcher: Synonymous (well, not exactly) with top, or dom. See Catcher
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Rack: 1. A medieval torture device. To my knowledge, not used in BDSM play
since the industrial revolution. 2. A (hopefully) rigid frame used to
secure the bottom during a scene. Used after the industrial revolution.
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Sadist: One who enjoys giving pain.
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Safeword: Some form of signal that the participants in a scene use to stop
slow, or otherwise take the scene out of a dangerous situation. Depending
on who you ask, this may or may not be a good idea, and may or may not
affect the power dynamics of a scene profoundly.
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Safe, sane, consensual: This, I feel, is what constitutes acceptable BDSM
play on asb. Exactly what this IS has some variability to it, though.
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Scene: 1. B&D, S&M, and sometimes D&S are arranged into scenes, short
periods during which the BDSM play takes place. 2. BDSM in general, its
participants, and their organizations.
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Sie/Hir: Gender-neutral pronouns, which the english language has a distinct
lack of. There is some debate amongst asb linguists over whether sie
and hir should be used at all, and the reader is encouraged to decide
on their own. (I, personally, am all for it, but I'm trying not to do
it here.)
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Sillyopheran: One of several asb posters recognized for their ability to
post funny things to asb.
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Slave: Synonym for submissive. Not used by everyone into D&S.
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Spam: n. 1. Material posted all over usenet, displayed all over the
place, etc. Usually ads. 2. any common, unwanted postings. v. 1. to
post material all over. (This word, incidentally comes from a Monty
Python sketch which I don't have space to describe here)
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Squick: 1. asb: a violently aversive reaction to a particular kink,
often involving nausea. Formulated by STella. 2. any aversive reaction.
3. alt.tasteless: to remove the top of someone's skull and have sex with
the hole. Legend has it that this was introduced to at by an asber who was
having some fun.
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Submissive: In D&S play, the one who gives up control.
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Switch: One who enjoys both the top and bottom or dom and sub roles. Or
all four.
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Top: The person who, in B&D or S&M play, is restraining, beating, cutting, etc.
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TPE: For Total (or True) Power Exchange. A form of D&S (or, depending
on who you ask, the only form of D&S) where the submissive gives up all
power to the dominant. Also a BBS in Washington, DC (only that's The
Power Exchange).
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Vanilla: A very common ice cream flavor. Also used to describe the
non-alternative versions of sexuality and people who practice them
exclusively.
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Wannafuck: An unsolicited sexually graphic piece of email. Posters who
self-identify as female often get these. Posters who self-identify
as male get them too, but less often. This is sometimes depressing for
the males.
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Wiitwd: What It Is That We Do. Credit goes to Bill Borher (who by now will
have changed his name several times) I believe for this one.
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YMMV: Your Mileage may vary. Or, Yaks Make More Volkswagons, depending on
your mood.
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