Alt.Sex: Bondage

Contents:


Part 1: Main body of Post

Changes (Since 1996): MAJOR rewrite. I unstilted the prose somewhat to make it more friendly and accessible, and I changed the rules around to reflect the new dynamics around here. Version 5.0

Really Short Version:

These are all tips. No one is bending your arm behind your back and forcing you to do these (well, maybe someone is, but that's none of my doing). On the other hand, a lot of work went into the Welcome, and (I think) it serves its purpose remarkably well.

  1. Watch for a while. Read all of this and the FAQ.
  2. Try to be understanding and accepting. The world is bigger than you thought it was, almost certainly.
  3. Remember the net.warriors serenity prayer: "Lord, let me have the conviction to stick to my position when I'm right, the grace to give in when I'm wrong, and the smarts to figure out which is what."
  4. Craft your posts. Bear in mind what you say, who you say it to, and how you say it.
  5. Usenet is not the end all and be all of the universe. Relax.
  6. This document is not strictly speaking accurate in all respects. It's just a guide to get you started.
  7. Avoid ads like the plague.
  8. Preface your subject lines with "ASB" so we can figure out you're not a spammer. [Editor's note: this doesn't apply to SSB]
  9. If it's copywrit, (read:written by someone else) and you don't have permission, DON'T POST IT. (Well, you can quote and cite, if you don't send too much)
  10. People here seem really familiar with each other. Relax, joining the clique is not a difficult thing.

Not So Really Short Version:

Hi there! Welcome to alt.sex.bondage. I'm Big Al, and I'll be guiding you through this brief tour of asb. This is one of our FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions. You'll find net.people have this tendency to use acronyms as often as they can) posts, but not THE FAQ nor could I conceivably replace the FAQ. I highly recommend you get a hold of and read the FAQ, as it explains what bondage & c. is all about and covers some very important safety information. All this post is is a guide to etiquette. It should be posted on the first and fifteenth of the month, or you can do ftp rtfm.mit.edu and look in /pub/usenet-by-group/alt.sex. bondage. Also, news.answers and news.announce.newusers are newsgroups that have a great deal of good information about how to post, how to read, and the conventions that are common throughout most of Usenet.

I'm going to be spending most of my time discussing what to do when you post. Most of the people who read asb, though, never write a single word. It IS okay to sit back and just read, and there are parts of this document (the appendixes) that can still be helpful to you. If you do decide to post, I really recommend you read ALL of the Welcome, read the FAQ, and read the newsgroup for a while to get the feel of the place. You can just jump in with both feet and hope you don't piss anyone off (I did) but generally it's better to look before you leap.

Alt.sex.bondage started, near as I can figure out, sometime between 1985 and 1988. Legend has it that originally it was a joke newsgroup, sort of like alt.sex.bestiality.hamster.duct-tape, but a group of real B&D enthusiasts took over and the rest is, well, history. Asb as it now stands is a catchall newsgroup, for all kinds of deviant sexuality: fetishism, sadomasochism, "love" bondage, etc. Gay/bi/lesbian and bestiality tend not to be discussed here, but it does happen from time to time. In asb you are likely to find technical questions and advice, jokes, relationship discussions, morality arguments, friendly yakking, not so friendly fighting, and just about anything else you're looking for, all in a BDSM positive atmosphere. You will also, unfortunately, find a lot of spam: personal ads, people with binaries or binary carrying websites, and occasionally consumer ads. Please try not to post any yourself. You can generally find non-spam articles that have "ASB" in the subject line.

There is one thing that is not tolerated in asb: nonconsensuality. This newsgroup worships at the altar of consent, and if you don't...keep an eye peeled for police officers. The exception to this rule is that if you're nonconsensual in fantasy and keep it that way, it's okay.

You may, of course, not find what you're looking for. If that happens, there's several things you can do: You can bitch about it and leave, you can post saying "why don't we have more of thisandsuch?", or (and this is your best choice), you can actually write some of the thisandsuch. What generally happens then is that other people who were looking for thisandsuch will go "Nice, there's someone with My kink. I think I'll reply to that post." and pretty soon you have a full blown discussion on your favorite topic going. I, personally, have actually done this to the point where it changed the whole nature of the newsgroup, but it took me about a year or two to do that. Finally, you can look elsewhere for what you want. I've included an appendix: Where Else To Look (appendix B) that should get you started.

I, personally, like to "craft" my posts. It's like making a sculpture: if you just bang something out you're going to be forgotten real fast, but if you take care and make a really good quality post, you soar in other people's esteem, your name goes down in the annals of asb Legend, and you get your point across a lot better, which is why you bothered to post, right? Here's some tips:

Well, that's everything I can think of to say just now. Good luck!

Big Al. Well, "The Greeting" was taken...


Part 2: Appendices

Copyright Notification: This document is copyrighted to yours truly. You have my persmission to distribute it or archive it, publicly or privately, provided you don't charge anyone for it, let people know that it was I who wrote it (Include my email address) and don't misquote just to prove how messed up all those kinky people are. Otherwise, ask first.

Changes (Since 2/20/96): The Valentines Day Rewrite. Not much changed in this part, though.

I'm going to erase all the information I DON'T have in here about the other FAQ's and issue a general call: you got one I should list?

I'm looking for anon remailers that people are willing to make part of this newsgroup's Welcome FAQ. If you don't run the thing, send me the address of whoever does so I can ask them for permission.

Appendix A: Ugol's Law

At some time in the past (nobody's sure when) Harry Ugol made an off-the-cuff remark (nobody's sure what) that has since become one of the cornerstones of asb thought. Two of the most common formulations of Ugol's Law, as it came to be known, are "For any given kink, either nobody does it or more than one person does it", and "If you ever ask 'am I the only one who <insert kink>?' the answer is invariably 'no'." However, the best way I ever saw of putting it was written by -^-^Spectrum^-^-, who wrote it "You are not the only one."

Ugol's law serves a very important purpose in asb, where people often come in from the cold wondering if they are some kind of sick twisted pervert in the bad sense of the word, alone in some unnatural practice they can't escape from. Ugol's law serves to remind people that there are others out there who are like them, and that serves as a source of comfort.

Some time later The_Horseman wrote Horseman's Corollary, specifically: "Any given kink squicks somebody." So remember that while you aren't universally rejected, there's somebody who won't do what you do. I suggest you not try to force them to. You're not their mother.

Appendix B: Where else to look

No way this is a complete list. A more complete list, the Guide to Sex Resource Information on the Internet, is (supposedly) published monthly here. Mail phillp@iglou.com for info/copy requests.

I am ALWAYS taking submissions for things you feel should be in here. I'll specifically ask for things up above, but I'll accept recommendations for any category.

Incidentally, a word about personals: It is generally a good idea (unless it is obvious that the place is for personals, like alt.personals.ads) to ask first before posting personals. Lots of places do not like personals at all. Come to think of it, the same is true for just about all the points of Nettiquette covered in this document. Read the documentation. [Editor's note: the SSB charter specifically prohibits personals]

Newsgroups:

alt.sex, alt.sex.bestiality, soc.motss, alt.sex.motss, soc.men, soc.women, soc.bi, the alt.sex.fetish.* groups (amputee, fat, fashion, feet, hair, orientals, startrek and size), alt.personals, alt.personals.ads, alt.personals.bondage, alt.sex.wizards (about questions for advanced sex, not sex with magii, although I suppose you could discuss that too), alt.sex.majick (for sex with magii) alt.sex.wanted, alt.polyamory, alt.personals.poly, rec.arts.bodyart (chiefly piercing and tatoos), alt.sex.spanking, alt.sex.femdom. All these groups have their own FAQs and traditions, and what is written here may not apply to them.

Mail lists:

[I would appreciate it if those who wished their email list noted here would contact me with the name, purpose, and a subscribe address. I would also appreciate it if those who are on the lists noted here would tell me how one gets on them and/or what they're about.]
clyster-l, Anal play oriented. Address unkown.
gl-asb, majordomo@queernet.org. For homosexual BDSM.
headspce@law.emory.edu : This, apparently, is going to concentrate on BDSM doings in the south (especially around Atlanta.) Send mail there or an170100@anon.penet.fi containing only SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the message body to subscribe or unsubscribe.
femdom-l: if you don't get alt.sex.femdom reliably or at all, this list will send the asf posts to you in the mail. To subscribe, send mail to listerv@ netcom.com with "subscribe femdom-l" in the message body. Contact juu@netcom. com if you have problems, questions, etc. This is not a discussion list.

IRC channels:

#bondage (invite-only), #bdsm, #gaysm, and #Femdom (not always extant, do /who #femdom to check).

#bdsm exists on both undernet and EFnet,
#gaysm very occasionally exists on undernet and often exists on EFnet,
#femdom I have seen on both nets, and #bondage only exists on EFnet, near as I can tell.
#B&Dlounge and #BDSMlounge I've only seen on the EFnet, but I haven't been looking elsewhere.

[Same here. Anybody who wants an IRC channel listed, would you please tell me?]

WWW sites:

[Okay, I'm taking submissions (Not THAT kind, quit lickin' my shoes) for this part, BUT I'm trying to avoid having to list everybody and their kid brother's personal home page. So, Neat, Wonderful, and Generally God-Like as you might be, please don't send me yours.]

Rob Jellinghaus robj@unreal.com: http://www.unreal.com/adult/asb/faq.htm [Editor's note: the URL has moved to http://www.unrealities.com/adult/ssbb/faq.htm] Okay, I know I said I didn't want to put peoples personal home pages in here, but this isn't just any person, it's Rob Jellinghaus. (Betcha that makes him feel better) He's the maintainer of the asb FAQ and you really should read that.
eff.org: http://www.eff.org Electronic Frontier Foundation, for information on political stuff like freedom of speech on the internet.
SM-COP Online Resource Directory: http://www.tpe.com Think of it as your kinky online card catalog/encyclopedia.
Society for Human Sexuality http://weber.u.washington.edu/~sfpse [Editor's note: the URL has moved to http://www.sexuality.org/] Much the same as above, though you might have a hard time if you're a chipmunk. Includes the Guide to Safer Sex.
mageneta.com: http://magenta.com/lmnop/intro.html Magenta is a site administered by our own Wombat that has both BDSM (look for "lmnop") and non-bdsm users.
The Eulenspiegal Society: http://www.mcsp.com/tes/toc.html [Editor's note: the URL has moved to http://www.tes.org/] An NYC bondage and alternate sexuality group, meets Wednesdays.
The Group With No Name: http://www.io.com/~crackers/GWNN.html [Editor's note: the URL has moved to http://www.gwnn.org/] An Austin (I think) based BDSM organization.

FAQs

Remailers, anon and non-anon.

(Say that five times fast)

Penet.fi is dead. I think. Any others?


Part 3: More Appendices

Copyright Notification: I wrote it, it's my copyright. Out of the kindness of my heart, I'm willing to allow you to copy, distribute, archive, etc. to your hearts content, privately or publicly, in whatever format you feel like (If it's anything besides a file or a computer printout, I'd be interested in knowing what it is, though) provided:

  1. My name and email address come attached.
  2. No money changes hands.
  3. It is not raped and bastardized to prove how strange persons of kink are. For starters, the only person it would prove was strange was me, and I already knew that.
Otherwise, ask permission. Say please.

Changes (Since 1996): The Valentines Day Rewrite. I changed Appendix C completely, and added "spam" and a new definition for "ASB" to the glossary.

Anybody know where I can find the Killfiles Faq? I'm looking for all kinds of killfiles advice.

Appendix C: Killfiles

There was a time, once, when people did not post ads saying "come visit my pornograpy website" all over alt.sex.bondage. But then, Cantor and Siegel came in and...well, nothing's been the same since. There is, however, a defense, of sorts: the Killfile.

What a killfile does is to automatically mark read posts that meet certain criteria you set beforehand. On unix systems, this file will be <your home directory>/News/alt/sex/bondage/KILL (or <your home dir>/News/KILL may work) Entries, for rn and trn, come in the following format: /<pattern>/H<headerline>:j the <> and the stuff in between are variables. For example: /.*,.*,.*,.*,/HNewsgroups:j Will kill all posts that hit five or more newsgroups. Two other good lines to have are: /alt.binaries/HNewsgroups:j and /multipart/HContent-Type:j

I totally stole these and tested them on trn. Worked fine. Thank you, spectrum and if you want me to get rid of it just let me know.

Appendix D: Glossary

[As Always, feel free to add, subtract, whatever]

Disclaimer: This is even less complete than the Where Else To Look appendix, and was just intended to give you a basic idea of what everyone is talking about. Oftentimes people will use these words in ways that have nothing to do with what I wrote down, and the vast majority of BDSM people don't know anything about some of these terms at all. (Ironically, "BDSM" is one of those words.) Consult your local scene for how people speak.

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